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The Politics of Envy? The EDL and UK Uncut

Today I return to the lumpen mass of idiocy that is the English Defence League (EDL) and their outrage at seeing a genuine movement of the people grow ever larger and actually have an impact.

Anyone who visits the EDL pages on Facebook and elsewhere will be aware that their objection to students, lefties and people who see fit to protest about subjects other than Islam is a long standing one. Virulently anti-intellectual and rabidly hostile, the general stance taken is that all non-EDL protesters are ‘unwashed, soap dodging, commie, Marxist, unemployed scum’ – this is in essence the same as their views on anyone opposed to them, they even seem to think that the protesters last weekend were all member of Unite Against Fascism (UAF), something that would surprise UAF themselves, I’d say.

This antagonistic approach to those protesting against the cuts seems to be at odds coming from a group claiming to represent the working people who will be most affected by the attack on public services. Turkeys voting for Christmas, or something deeper?

This screen shot clearly shows that the general stance against anti-cuts groups is one initiated by the EDL leadership:

As you can see there are a few EDL members brave enough to question the leadership’s dictat, but judging by the time lapses between the posts, they are the exception that proves the rule.

So, why would a group claiming to be for the working class, and one that regularly bemoans the ‘commie/Marxist’ government of Cameron (stop sniggering at the back), be so supportive of proposals that threaten to wreck working class communities?

The EDL proclaims itself to be a single issue, non-political group. Its mission statement states that it is a ‘human rights organisation’ (I said stop sniggering!) essentially dedicated to fighting radical Islam/sharia law (excellent piece on the statement here), and it has recently threatened to take action against journalists describing it as being a far right group. However, the EDL is ‘backed’ by right wing businessman Alan Lake – would it be silly to suggest that he may have a hand in deciding ‘policy’ on political matters such as this? To understand where Lake stands on the political spectrum, take a look at his ‘Final Solution’.

There is also a large, nay, massive amount of what can only be described as jealousy involved here. The EDL trumpet themselves as a ‘street army’ of working class folk fighting to defend all that is good about our country. Last weekend they saw exactly what that should look like and they didn’t enjoy it. As one person on Twitter pointed out, the anti-cuts march was measured in miles, whereas the EDL’s ‘big one’ in Luton struggled to cover one street. They will point to the online presence of 80,000 on their Facebook page, but have never managed to assemble more than a couple of thousand of these – of course, that online figure is itself inflated by the multiple accounts that many EDL members use in order to troll their opponents’ online presence, and also to serve the aforementioned boost to numbers. There are also a significant number of people who ‘Like’ the page in order to debate with the EDL.

Read the EDL pages this week and you will see them foaming at the mouth with insults and threats to the anti cuts movement, with particular ire being aimed at Uk Uncut. This is in the main prompted by the stance taken by the leadership, a leadership worried that despite their claims otherwise, the EDL have not taken over the streets, but others have. They whinge about the supposed criminality of the protesters, while ignoring their own.

In reality, they’re taking shots at a rhinoceros with pea shooters – the anti cuts movement is rapidly growing both in numbers and within the imagination of the public. The BNP is currently splitting itself asunder and showing the weakness of the far right and its strictest adherents when pressure is applied. There may soon come a tipping point for the EDL as well, with infighting and splits reported this very week, and in lashing out at new opponents the EDL leadership could be attempting to re-focus their troops. Their problem is, it’s still not working.

  1. Matt
    March 31, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    good. It’s one thing having black bloc wrecking a protest my association, can you imagine the outcry if the EDL had rocked up, too?

  2. Matt
    March 31, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    good. It’s one thing having black bloc wrecking a protest by association, can you imagine the outcry if the EDL had rocked up, too?

  3. March 31, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Sue for describing them as far-right? Yes, well I can see that – better to describe the EDL as extreme right. EDL simians regular post offensive comments under my YouTube videos, describing me as nerdy, scruffy, dirty, long-haired, etc, usually followed by a “see you next tuesday”. And all I did was claim their secret leader is none other than Pinocchio the toilet brush.

  4. SB3x5
    March 31, 2011 at 6:23 pm


  5. SB3x5
    March 31, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    What noobs!

  6. Lee
    March 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    I like the EDL i like UKUNCUT i don’t see why each other have issues despite being left and right. It’s irrelevent. Some UKUNCUT people are a little unfair to BNP EDL labelling them simply anti muslim racist groups when they both have fundamental positive aims in 80% of what theyre saying or doing. Obviously there is a slight element of both groups that no doubt is very radical with extreme views but beyond that in itself is good aims that anti fascist groups are too posh to understand fully because the reality that the BNP and EDL point out is lost upon people living in places they cannot comprehend such a thing.

    BUt overall i think all groups should not be fighting or insulting each other. It wont help any in the long term.

  7. March 31, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Lee, I’ve been campaigning against the BNP for the last two decades, and the EDL since they were formed. The BNP are a racist party, they have only changed their constitution to let non-whites in under legal duress, they count terrorists and terrorist symapthisers among their membership. And there’s so much more. The EDL’s Facebook page is full of racism and violent threats – comments about filling water pistols with pigs blood and spraying ‘muzrats’ – Guramit Singh, one of the three leaders, saying that *all* Muslims are going to Hell – I’ve seen tens of hundreds of examples of racism and violent attitudes from EDL followers, and when they can’t fight anyone else, they’ll fight among themselves.

    BNP and EDL are disgraces to our country.

  8. March 31, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Oh, and as for people being ‘too posh’ to understand? That’s pure fallacy – I’ve lived on council estates all my life, I’ve worked in one of the most diverse boroughs in the country for 17 years. I, and many others who oppose the BNP/EDL, do live among it, and that’s exactly the reason why we know Griffin, Lennon et al are lying scumbags.

  9. chhazeau
    April 1, 2011 at 11:19 am

    what would be interesting is if EDL swallowed the bitter pill of aligning themself to the mass anti-cuts movement, wouldnt we all have some soul-osearching to do then?

  1. April 1, 2011 at 12:17 am

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